December 2, 201015 yr comment_143507 WRITTEN THE SCOOBY OFF YESTURDAY DOING ALL OF 6-7MPHi was going down a snowy lane that had tyre tracks up and down and had seen cars going down earlier in the day but the snow had turned to ice and the rest is history.the ABS dosnt work under 5mph and as i was going around a corner i could feel the car under steering quite badly and knew we were sliding, then the abs came in so now i know we are speeding up and doing at least 5mph, pedal by now is going mad but the car is still speeding up on the ice downhill heading very slowly at a cornish granite wall, bang in goes the drivers side front corner, boom across the road we go like a pin ball, crunch, bang goes the passengers side front corner and the wheel jams up against the floor pan, twirling down the road and into a 12" ditch and the final crunch rear drivers quater into the wall and the front end is now sticking out across the road.so im thinking if anything else comes down they are going to hit us and then its double trouble!!so rocking the car back and forth in reverse and 1st it pulls out the ditch and im facing the wrong way UPHILL, so i reverse at about 0.5-1mph and turnaround, park it up and call a friend to pick me and the wife up, i left the car there and am going back tomorrow for it as it needs a front end lift due to teh n/s wheel being pushed back.it needs 2x headlights2xindicators2x bumpers2xwingsloads of pulling about on a jig and what ever suspension is broken replacing.oh it gets better......... i had just filled the bloody thing with £43worth of LPG so im now breaking itgood everything apart from above ill post pics up tomorrow when i move it.its worth £1500-£2000 on insurance but ive got at least a £500 excess plus i cant be arsed to have a claim against me so ill get £1000+ if i break it and its easier to do.ive also got Audi S3 wheels on it that are worth a bit so if anybody wants subaru legacey outback parts let me know!!its worth putting back on the road for sure as its an awsome machine and i loved it but now im thinking of getting a transit van for towing and work etc and as my mate has one for sale........... Report
December 2, 201015 yr comment_143508 is it wrong to ask for photos?sorry to hear that thou Dave Report
December 2, 201015 yr Author comment_143509 na not at all, it was 100% my fault for foolishly going down that lane after a days worth of -4 weather freezing the snow and i paid the price, never mind at least its not goldie i stuffed!!ill get them pics tomorrow when i move it Report
December 2, 201015 yr comment_143512 suddenly i am quite happy i have had no snow and very little ice so far Report
December 2, 201015 yr comment_143515 funny that (though not for you dave ) but our next door but one neighbour has a legacy and it could'nt even get up the drive which is only a cars length, world rally cross eh? Report
December 2, 201015 yr comment_143516 funny that (though not for you dave ) but our next door but one neighbour has a legacy and it could'nt even get up the drive which is only a cars length, world rally cross eh?Easy.................wrong tyres! Report
December 2, 201015 yr Author comment_143517 it went EVERYWHERE, i used it to pull my boat out in low tides on the green slippery seaweed, across fields and in the snow but not great on iceno tyres will grip ice without studs even with 2x locked axles because at the end of the day tyres need grip and ice DONT LET THEM GRIP Report
December 3, 201015 yr comment_143523 it went EVERYWHERE, i used it to pull my boat out in low tides on the green slippery seaweed, across fields and in the snow but not great on iceno tyres will grip ice without studs even with 2x locked axles because at the end of the day tyres need grip and ice DONT LET THEM GRIPAgree with you there dave i had a low speed bump last night with my suzuki sj on mud and snow tyres went to help a mate who was stuck in the snow and slid at low speed into his car And that is on propper winter tyres 2inchs of snow but sheet ice hidden underneath studs are the only thing that would have helped, Lucky for me i had a recycling box full of rock salt in the back and a shovel Report
December 3, 201015 yr comment_143526 You're right Dave, I have driven on studded tyres and on winter tyres now. But at least with unstudded winter tyres you have a chance of getting grip at the edges or middle of the road where there may still be snow.My comments weren't aimed at you but Hammopower's neighbour who's drive was unlikely to be iced up and the Legacy have summer tyres.Generally my experience with winter tyres is that, apart from ice and really steep hills, as long as there is some snow or slush only snow deeper than the ground clearance beats them.Whilst a M&S open tread pattern helps it is the low temperature optimised rubber mix that is the real difference and not all M&S tyres have it. My Continental 820s have a nearly 'summer' looking pattern. Report
December 4, 201015 yr Author comment_143570 PICS AS REQUESTED This is a £1500- £2000 car before the bumpthe tyres alone cost me £390 and the tax is worth £30 odd plus a full tax of gas and thats nearly the asking price!!just want it gone now as its quite upsetting seeing this like it is looking for a new shape 2.5 outback now but no cash untill at least feb unless there is a 4-5k bargin about (normally about 6k+)http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280599263771 Report
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